Dear ELV,
I agree with your post that Yelp has ruined food journalism. While I don’t agree with your reviews all the time, I put much more weight into your reviews than any of the amateurs on Yelp.
But I think bemoaning Yelp in general is the wrong tactic here in your case. I think you should use your journalistic skills to investigate why Yelp is so horrible. As someone who has an account and has been active in the Yelp community as mostly an observer for the last 6 years, I can note that these people that are being trusted more than you are some of the most uneducated, morally bankrupt people I have ever encountered. This goes triple for the elite squad. I think an article (or series of articles) would give national attention to a corporate run corrupt community.
For example, one complaint I made to Yelp that landed me in hot water years ago with Misti Yang, and for which I still receive grief over today, was that the Elite Yelpers, whose reviews are weighted much more heavily than us “regular folks” do not tend to reflect the reality of a dining establishment. That is, many of these individuals attend sponsored events which are specifically set up for Yelp members, and then review the establishment based on that experience alone.
My original complaint, with regards to this phenomenon, was regarding Sushi Goyemon, which hosted an unofficial Yelp event and then received the unanimous praise of all attendees, who described a much different restaurant than I ever attended. I, on the other hand, was greeted with poor service and mediocre food, to say the least, when I went there. And there have been examples, both with Misti and at present, with a new Community Manager, where those attendees who do post criticisms are not invited back to future events. At least professional journalists tend to be more objective, and have the experience and (usually) the intellect to discern a truly good place from the crap.
In fact, at least in the case of Las Vegas, Yelp’s claim that its content is representative of “real people” is laughable at best. Opinions and reviews which diverge from the Elite hive mind, or that are deemed offensive or incorrect, are regularly removed from the website via the flagging functionality. Negative reviews given to restaurants which are considered trendy are reported en masse by the various cliques on the website, are deleted, and the deletion is often justified by Yelp corporate and its community manager based on a technicality, such as an inappropriate word or phrase, or the claim that the review is of an experience that is not recent enough, with no real justification.
I agree with your general commentaries, and your laments, of people placing equal value on the reviews of the often unintelligible masses on Yelp as those from professional food critics. I even attended your lecture/debate featuring you, Misti Yang from Yelp, Al Mancini, and Brock Radke, and was firmly in the food critics’ corner. Know that there are still plenty of us out there that value the opinions of you and others like you, and that professional food critics will always have an audience among people who care more about quality, accurate and reliable reviews, and impartiality than about following the trends. Keep writing, and we’ll keep reading!
Thanks,
Yelp Yak Yoker
ELV responds:
Dear YCubed
Your concern with “hosted events” for “elite Yelpers” (whatever the heck that means) is understandable, but such bought and paid for recommendations by “reviewers” are no worse than the “hosted” dinners every food writer (save Heidi Knapp Rinella) in this town flocks to because the cheap ass publishers of their free magazines won’t pay their expenses. (In some ways, their ethical breaches are worse since they call themselves professional critics and food “journalists” — which in this town generally means: “I beg for food to write articles for a pittance.”)
As for us, we believe everyone deserves a voice, but not everyone deserves a microphone. Yelp has the same flaws all democracies do: the shouts of the stupid often outweigh the the more measured arguments of the well-informed. The majority is not always right…and more often than not it is the most wrong….but overall, giving even a bunch 0f know-nothing hipsters a voice in telling people details about their meal has been a good thing for the food world and restaurant industry. So I can only go so far in criticizing it.
It would seem, however, that deleting negative reviews to curry favor with establishments (or give that elite set a puffed up sense of their own importance) is Tammany Hall-style governance at its worst. So any other anecdotes or information about such practices are of keen interest to him. (Our day job prevents us from having the time to delve into the type of muckraking/exposé you suggest.)
In the meantime, ELV is happy that he has a voice, and multiple microphones. He promises to continue calling out the frauds (either behind the plate or the printed word) and thanks you for your kind words.
Best and bon appetit,
ELV
Postscript:
We received two “comments” about Yelp from a couple of friends (both of whom are experienced restaurateurs) which we feel merit inclusion into the body of this article.
Mario Maccioni wrote on our Facebook page: A top F & B director in Las Vegas once told me his division relies heavily on Yelp. I was so shocked I told him “God help us if we run our businesses by Yelp.” He told me, “We do.” That factored into my decision to move back to New York.
LaPorte Haiku added this in our comments section:
As a restaurateur, I can confirm that I have NEVER been able to get Yelp to remove a single comment or “review.” Not once. I once had someone review one of my restaurants by saying “it would be better if I stood outside the restaurant and punched you in the face.” That comment was flagged by not only me, but my team at the restaurant, and it was never removed.
LaPorte continues: So here’s Yelp’s dirty little secret…
Yelp makes money off restaurants and other businesses by selling Yelp ads. This alone shouldn’t be a conflict of interest. However, Yelp runs a 1950’s style mafia protection scheme which at it’s core “helps” business owners keep their Yelp page looking it’s best. Yelp sells your direct competitors ad space on your Yelp page, unless you buy their ads. This will keep that ad space free of competitor ads. Yelp has no direct line of communication unless you buy ad space. Then you are provided with a Yelp account manager who can help you maximize your page effectiveness. When there are “reviews” of your business that you would like removed, you can’t call them, you can’t write – unless you are a paying client. In essence, if you don’t buy Yelp ads people can run amuck all over your Yelp page.
And I refuse to pay the person who is bullying me, to stop bullying me.
Everyone knows who wrote this article.
The usual “troll” on Yelp Las Vegas.
Tricia M.=Reza=Johnny=Dr.V=The Twins=Ari=Yak=Matt M.=??????
Old news, move on.
“the shouts of the stupid often outweigh the the more measured arguments of the well-informed” could not be more accurate, not only with regard to Yelp but with regard to so many industries. The fact stands that there is room for both the professional review and the opinions of the layperson.
ELV remains a very valid resource, but if you can sort the diamonds from the rough so is Yelp.
Old News, do you mean to say that there’s only one troll on Yelp LV? Given the number of visitors to and the size of Las Begas, I would have assumed a much higher number. If anything, this would mean that Yelp is thinly populated and I’d give even less credence to its general opinion. (One advantage to Urbanspoon is that it pulls from multiple outside sources in addition to its own user community.)
Tricia M. should have just used her name when she submitted this letter, it’s obvious she wrote it.
ELV responds: Pseudonyms are given to the letter writers by us, not by the writers themselves.
As a restaurateur, I can confirm that I have NEVER been able to get Yelp to remove a single comment or “review.” Not once. I once had someone review one of my restaurants by saying “it would be better if I stood outside the restaurant and punched you in the face.” That comment was flagged by not only me, but my team at the restaurant, and it was never removed.
So here’s Yelp’s dirty little secret…
Yelp makes money off restaurants and other businesses by selling Yelp ads. This alone shouldn’t be a conflict of interest. However, Yelp runs a 1950’s style mafia protection scheme which at it’s core “helps” business owners keep their Yelp page looking it’s best. Yelp sells your direct competitors ad space on your Yelp page, unless you buy their ads. This will keep that ad space free of competitor ads. Yelp has no direct line of communication unless you buy ad space. Then you are provided with a Yelp account manager who can help you maximize your page effectiveness. When there are “reviews” of your business that you would like removed, you can’t call them, you can’t write – unless you are a paying client. In essence, if you don’t buy Yelp ads people can run amuck all over your Yelp page.
And I refuse to pay the person who is bullying me, to stop bullying me.
Yelp has real potential, it can give consumers a voice and allow us a certain amount of leverage when it comes to our dealings with the private sector. We may not have a say in any boardroom, but we can review a business on Yelp, and apparently, businesses do care about the way they trend on the site. However, I can’t help but think that Yelp’s sketchy ways take away from it’s credibility.
As is, Yelp has a two tier system. There are the elites who can violate TOS, form cliques that harass other members, as long as they’re on the local Yelp ambassador’s good side, and then there are the rest of us. There are the businesses which promote Yelp events and get tons of positive reviews from elites in exchange for the freebies they give out, and the businesses which are the darlings of the elites, and then the rest of the businesses. There are those of us who have to worry about saying we dislike a popular food or restaurant on Yelp Talk, and then the elites and their troll profiles who can do absolutely as they please. There are those of us who participate, write well, and end up being filtered almost a year after joining, and those who become elite within a month of writing a few poorly worded reviews.
Yelp is the only viable site of it’s kind, so it will continue to be active, but as regards the quality and actual credibility of the site, judging from what I’ve seen on it, I’m not too sure of it.
As far as the Vegas Yelp community goes, it lacks any credibility whatsoever. Misti Yang was fired for her ineptness, yet the new CM continues to perpetuate the same hostile online environment. The clique which thinks that it runs the site is allowed to harass, threaten and stalk anyone who dares to question their hegemony. Don’t like truffle aioli and truffle oil on your burger? Get ready to be cyber bullied over it for months. Don’t like Zappos’ turning downtown into a 21st century company town? Get ready for cyber geeks and real estate hacks like Steve Franklin who think they’ll make a buck off of gentrification, stalking you on every social media site out there. Complain about elite members such as Christie Olds fishing for personal info, or Dana Spahic reviewing a gun shop and then threatening to bring a gun to a Yelp event… and get ready to be called a trouble maker and a troll, for worrying about your personal safety. You’re an attractive woman on Yelp? Well, get ready to be serenaded by geeky computer nerds and to have not so attractive women like Jade Wade or Jessie B(itch) bombard her “friends” with private messages asking them to flag you off the site.
As far as these people’s reviews and dining/night life recommendations go… Well, the city’s finest dining and night life scene apparently revolves around Chinatown, Bachi Burger, Fremont East and any joint to have sponsored an elite event. If by chance you disagree, you must be a “troll.”
The truth of the matter is, no professional critic has any reason to fear Vegas Yelp. Like wise, anyone with the most mundane common sense can’t really take the circus all too seriously.
In the end, a site like Yelp is just a mode of communication, and only as viable and credible as the people using it.
ELV responds: Yumpin’ Yiminee! @DocYelp sounds like a man after our own heart: kicking ass and naming names. THAT’S the sort of informed opinion we thrive on, and we can’t thank him enough for his comment.
DocYelp is just mad that Yelp actually enforced their rules and banned his stupid troll ass for the 4th time.
The only good thing about Yelp is that it is free. Nobody is going to pay good money for crappy reviews.
The comments couldn’t be further from the truth. LV Yelp used to be amazing until last year. The new CM appears to only handle yelpers who say something negative towards him and lets others slide. There is a certain elite clique that gets together and bullies and pushes good yelpers out. It is a shame that there are many people on yelp that use the site for what is intended for yet get bullied into just quitting. There are certain people who use yelp as facebook by putting themselves out there begging for attention. Who cares if you had a really rough week? Do you know how many other people have had a bad week? Certain yelpers post things to business pages that are intended as personal attacks towards certain other yelpers not even thinking about how it might effect the business. And these posts just get flagged and removed instead of the yelper loosing their Elite status or having their account closed all together. The past and current CM are aware and have been given proof but still do nothing about it. The fact that the CM sets up public events intended for yelpers to get together makes him just as responsible if something happens to another yelper and knew that certain people felt threatened by them. Gosh forbid any yelper not give a 5 star review to Snow Flake Shavery or any of the other places the ever so faithful clique says should get it… You will be bullied and told by others not to like you. I remember before last year, yelp was a fun place where people got together to donate, hang, help, and just be a great yelp community. I haven’t attended any events UYE or other for a while because it is always the same clique showing up and taking over. I am taking it the people bashing DocYelp are apart of the clique :o(
Tricia Murray………get over yourself and face reality.
We all know you wrote the ELV1 and we know you are Doc Yelp.
We all know your issues with Misti. We all know your issues with “cliques”. We all know how hateful and what a black cloud you are on Yelp Talk. We know you hate
You write the same things and say the same things for all your troll multiple personalities on Yelp Talk Las Vegas.
Same story, same wording, we all laugh about you, Old News.
Thank you John! Gosh what fun it will be watching this discussion deteriorate, and folks that are not familiar with Yelp will be able to get a Cliff’s Notes version of their frustrating weaknesses right here. Those trying to defend Yelp will actually end up solidifying the points of the original letter writer (they are doing a great job so far).
“Old News” is a prime example of falling into the trap. Personal petty attacks, without actually addressing the substance of what has been said. “We all know”. But of course you do!
I am going to get some popcorn before coming back to this thread later on.
Any reader with an ounce of lucidity can come to the conclusion that the barely literate rant and flippant comments are from childish and under educated cyber bullies.
Allow me to translate for you, Dana, Christie, Joe and all your yelpy buddies.
Any one with a GED can tell you people are full of yourself, and you all have expressed that in this comment section.
The only two comments worth any adults time to read, and it is not from any of you.
Now please, go ahead and accuse me of being a troll.
Quincy, you are right. Also, “Old News” is not representing yelp well by making personal jabs. This is probably one of the problem yelpers no doubt. Feeling guilty so they must make a personal attack because it is all they know. Pathetic.
I miss the old yelp.
Why isn’t anyone saying anything about the insults Dr V, oops I mean “DocYelp” posted?
Why people are saying Tricia M. submitted this:
http://www.yelp.com/user_details_review_search?q=Goyemon&userid=PomQayG1WhMxeSl1zohAUA
Sound familiar?
@John Curtas, as a fan of your work, the compliment really means a lot!
“Old News” who sounds a lot like Steve Franklin, is basically an example of everything that’s wrong with Yelp Vegas. The person came on here spouting vitriol, accusing anyone who criticizes Yelp of being a troll and professes a paranoid delusion that there is somehow one single person out there who is behind any critique of Yelp, because they are too delusional to fathom the thought that anyone with a few working brain cells will pick up on what’s actually going on. These kind of attacks are what anyone who isn’t a part of the self proclaimed ruling clique on Vegas Yelp will be subject to on the site. Along with having their profile, reviews and comments flagged regardless of whether or not they violate the TOS.
The really sick part of it is that the Yelpers who behave this way consider themselves to be “positive” individuals, while anyone who disagrees with them is being “negative.” They associate their vitriol with helping to ensure that the site remains “positive.”
So picture this folks…. You join Yelp, and you disagree with the clique that claims Yonaka is the epitome of fine dining, or that Snowflake Shavery is the best thing since sliced bread, and this is the kind of treatment you’ll receive….
How do you know for SURE it is Dr V? It could be any of the nasty YT people. I stopped yelping for a while because of certain people shoving their healthy eating down my throat and getting ticked off when I didn’t give a 5 star review to their favorite place. Then you have the elite who cries wolf all of the time begging other yelpers to flag others and making people feel their life is threatened when they are the only one damaging themselves. People who post on yelp leave a thumbprint over time with the comments they make and most people are observant enough to see who the real trouble makers are. We can’t stop there! There is the whole private UYE some yelpers set up to exclude others in the community. I could go on and on.
I agree! There is certain people putting too much of themselves on yelp and not using it for what is meant for.
The accusations Elv1 and DocYelp make are easily spotted to be false by anyone actually paying attention to Yelp/YelpTalk. Think most can tell Doc = Reza by the same inability to distinguish between it’s and its proper usage in a sentence.
Tricia has accused people of: following people home from events; destroying personal property; threatening people over pixelated crowns; and wrote scathing attacks on Misti more than once. When her minions follow this into the real world it is “just this far” from being TOS or in some cases, libel. They have made Yelp Talk a place few people even want to participate and clearly flag and report TOS violations (or what they construe as such because clearly *everyone* is talking, thinking, TOSing or tossing off about them, :::insert eyeroll:::)
Some Elites have not attended an Official event all year, do not base their entire existence/social lives around Yelp a use it mainly as (gasp) a review site. The people who participate in all of the above-referenced have made it suck for everyone. And that is a shame. Anyone who thinks one person is sick of this behavior is as delusional as the Troll Posse
I beg your pardon, the accusations I’ve made against Yelp are true. The behavior of those claiming to defend Vegas Yelp simply reinforces everything I’ve stated.
Accusing anyone of having a differing opinion on a review site, of being a “troll” doesn’t make a certain clique’s views any more correct. Calling me a troll doesn’t make you any more credible, calling me stupid doesn’t make you smart.
I’m also aware of anti-Semitic rants at Yelp events…. Christina W and Yuhi ring a bell? Tien and Anthony(who is apparently a representative of the Vegas Yelp community)? Or what about Dana Spahic and her Islamophobic rants geared towards the boyfriend of a girl who was flagged off Yelp by her, Jessie Bonello, Christie Olds, etc simply because she was “too sexy” and “attractive”? Didn’t Roger throw a major fit when he offered to attend a Yelp event for the purpose of asking local Yelpers why they behave that way and why they sexually harassed, cyber bullied and flagged his girlfriend off the site? Or what about Misti Yang stating that Yasmin T couldn’t be real because “girls that attractive don’t use Yelp”?
This isn’t YT, I don’t have to worry about anyone kissing Drew’s ass so that he lets their little clique do as they please…and you can’t “flag” my posts on here.
More lies from Reza. Sad that this site is encouraging his comments, Curtas must need more page views.
Not all Elites hang out together. Not all Elites hang out in China Town ONLY. Never have I known of anyone being berated for their true review of a location. Don’t think Yonaka lives up to the hype and don’t revolve my life around Yelp.
For the record: Steve is not an Elite Yelper
There’s definite Anti Semitism expressed, but what else is new?
No desire to try Snowflake, though their Mafia has been known to abduct and force feed and then destroy people who don’t post five star reviews with gamma rays (not at all but as valid as what the “looser” (sic) suggests.
Trolls are people who antagonize and and no valuable content to a site…reviews have value on Yelp if you decide they do. Those creating multiple accounts; false reviews and posting threats and inane bullshit do not.
And FWIW Misti has, had and will always have more class in her pinky toenail than her faceless attackers who erroneously report the reason she CHOSE to leave CM duties after 3 successful years. Talk about jealous cows…or is that the pig farm I smell?
Who in their right mind would trust a review website that has this sort of nefarious and pugnacious activity? The comments speak for yelp and its obvious ill mannered members.
Personally, I would take a seasoned professional food critics view, rather than a tribe of hoodlums that behave worse than a prepubescent street gang.
I have read some reviews from yelpers, and it is as if they are in a fantasy world that they are a renowned food critic, puhleeze people. Food critics go through years of training, and do not always give glowing reviews of restaurants just because there was free food involved. These people must live up to their reputations.
My advice to you kids on yelp that are elite, simply because you need a free meal and need to feel important, get a life, and a real one at that.
In closing, the real trolls by definition are the elite yelpers, one can find any day in yelp talk Vegas.
The small group of people that flag off real people because they are intimidated by intelligence and taste.
Misti the previous yelp Las Vegas CM was fired because she closed the twins accounts after Peter, from Yelp Security, looked into it. Notice how Misti has no elite 2013 badge, because yelp put her in the hall of shame.
It is unheard of for a community manager to not have an elite badge, even after leaving, as long as they post reviews. Believe what you want, but I know personally about the incident.
Her being let go, took at least 8 weeks, due to the fact that yelp hq needed a new CM.
Pure and Simple.
Now carry on and call me names, like the children you are…..
Also Misti was notorious for closing accounts when the reviewer posted negative reviews for establishments that sponsored her yelp events.
That makes the website less credible at best and extremeley BIASED.
I hope the readers will depend on food critics when dining and not yelp, at least not yelp for any thing more than an address or a quick tip, especially when in Las Vegas.
Isn’t it funny that rather than arguing about the merits of the post in question, the vast majority of these comments have been attempts at revealing the poster and accusations of trolling? I will borrow a phrase from Mr. Curtas and his legal ilk – these people have no leg to stand on.
The bottom line is that Yelp is corrupt as all hell, and the entire Las Vegas Yelp community just blindly perpetuates that. Rather than arguing for the merits of Yelp, too many have resorted to personal attacks and to attempts to unveil and libel the poster of the letter.
The blind lashing out from the assuredly Yelp Elites in anonymous comments (Elizabeth Burns Kirschenbaum et. al., although I would love to write a dissertation on the madness of that woman) merely reinforces one of the core arguments of the poster of this article: that the Las Vegas Yelp Elite community is filled to the brim with uneducated, unintelligent, and reprehensible individuals who offer no added value to this city.
I’m sure that I will be accused of being yet another troll, or that I am another troll account, or an alter ego of some person that the Yelp circlejerk has identified as one of the problems, but that’s just the paranoia talking, and the inability to fathom that people in Vegas, who read and use Yelp, dare deviate. This is my first and only post here, so far, no matter how much your Axis II BPD suggests.
Sorry Yeeps, there is dissension in the ranks, and your attempts to libel and cover up via flagging and other mechanisms will not work!!
Now back to the topic at hand: who can prove that the Las Vegas Elite crew doesn’t unfairly review restaurants that set up ideal and unrealistic scenarios and offer free goodies, and that they don’t harshly punish those who would dare threaten their sweet gravy train? I await your RELEVANT response.
If a “small group of people” were truly able to “flag off” real people from Yelp, surely Tricia would be gone by now. It’s very obvious how disliked she is with her constant negativity and bitchiness. However one must give credit where it is due, she is skilled in just following the rules enough to keep her account safe.
The truth is there are people that don’t follow the rather basic rules that Yep has laid out for its members and they end up getting banned. Rather than looking at their own actions they instead choose to point the finger and blame anyone but themselves, as well as Yelp itself.. And then they continue to make account after account, as though they were addicted to the site which they do little more than complain about. Sad when you think about it.
Also, just thought I’d quote this from the Misti defender above, “Over it”:
“There’s definite Anti Semitism expressed, but what else is new?”
Stay classy Vegas Yeeps.
OneWhoKnows, how about you prove your theory rather than ask people to prove it’s not true?
Because I’m not the poster of the article? The original poster made a claim that has yet to be invalidated. That you anonymous Elite Yeeps cannot stay on topic is none of my concern.
If it’s such a major issue surely you will be able to give numerous examples of multiple, different Elite Yelpers posting these so called unfair reviews
Your entire system of secret handshakes, and nebulous criteria for becoming representatives of Yelp, and the fact that you still haven’t, and likely will never, attempt to refute anything whatsoever in this entire thread speaks volumes in and of itself.
It’s a major issue because the other thousands of users of Yelp look at you and laugh that such a corrupt and borderline extortionist organization continues to operate unhindered and with so much blind support from those looking for their handouts.
Fly away, little Yeep, you are no longer under the protection of your fellow goons who can flag away any dissents and otherwise prolong the circlejerk.
Just wanted to wish everyone a happy online shopping season.
Were the ELV Top 50 discussions between John, Max and Al anything like the above bickering?
Unlikely, because the aforementioned actually possess the requisite intelligence to formulate coherent arguments and to stay on topic.
“The accusations Elv1 and DocYelp make are easily spotted to be false by anyone actually paying attention to Yelp/YelpTalk.”
So, as a former Las Vegas resident and infrequent return visitor, why exactly should I be paying attention to Yelp/Yelp Talk? If I’m an outsider looking for reviews of local places, why should I look to Yelp? Seriously, this whole thing is Scottsdale, but without the intellectual depth.
@Lurker,
At this point, I wouldn’t trust Yelp. Things like Google Places, Urbanspoon, etc., contain reviews of the same level of trustworthiness, without the threat of the Elite Yeep squad constantly overshadowing you, especially if you somehow give one iota of a shit about being invited to Yelp events, official or otherwise.
I have never, unlike “One Who Knows” posted a review for a Yelp sponsored event under the business listing (which she did on several occasions, whilst ignoring Yelp rules to do so and having the unmitigated gall to ask for MORE free tickets for herself and her husband: see “when are we getting Anthony Cools tickets?…”) Me thinks the “lady” protests too much…
Someone who cannot be trusted to follow simple instructions to post under an event rather than a business listing and then bemoans the fact that some Elites attend events; post correctly under Event and then choose to patronize or not patronize the locale is irrelevant when compared to her constant unsubstantiated claims and lack of any valuable content to the site in nearly a year.
(I’d just like to take a second and thank Over It for responding to my question instead of taking an opportunity to score points in some intramural dispute of which I can neither make heads nor tails. You, sir and/or ma’am, are a True American.)
And yes, yes I am Tricia M., thank you for paying attention. Game Over.
@Over It
Congratulations, you have failed at the Internet. I have never posted a single review on Yelp, nor am I a she. Me thinks the entire Jessie B. crew (Jessie Bonello, the aforementioned Elizabeth Kirschenbaum and Dana Spahic, and the always lovable yet creepy possible ex-meth addict Christine-Marie Oldes) doth protest too much and cannot address the original post.
I say it again – you Yeeps are completely incapable of arguing any type of intelligent point. The best you have is failed attempts at unveiling and libeling the posters in this thread. It’s time to accept the fact that your ironclads are springing leaks, and those who have been subjugated, or altogether turned off by the ramblings of Elite drama queens finally have a forum where we cannot be censored by a concerted effort of the lifeless.
So Tricia moved away (according to one of her profiles; or can’t keep up herself; who cares…)
Aka: Lurker No Lurker doesn’t even know where she/it lives. That happens when you have myriad online “personalities” just to play games. Your employer must be very understanding…
@Over It
I ain’t decipherin’ that disasterpiece. Perhaps you should try going back on your BPD meds.
In the meantime, I’m just going to quote this once again, from one of your fellow Elites in this thread:
“There’s definite Anti Semitism expressed, but what else is new?”
I can safely say that between that, the drama, and your insane posts above, we common folks aren’t missing much.
Now selling Ugg’s at Z…you know how to find us.
Dear Mr. Curtis,
Let me be the first to welcome you to the innards of Vegas Yelp. It’s glorious, isn’t it? That’s why I told Misti to take my badge and shove it up Yelp’s ass.
Signed,
Captain Obvious
PS – I’m just on there for the food porn and banter.
I have saved voicemails and many many many saved messages frim other yelpers proving Christine-Marie Licato-Old has made false accusations about other yelpers and seriously screamed at them. Christine-Marie Licato-Olds was having a internet relationship with Stephen A and then tried to make him seem the pervert when his wife found out. She creates these scenes so people feel sorry for her. She is lonely with many insecurities and most likely poisoned from all the uni. Elizibeth Beet Bitch is a fake ass who lies about the property she is buying up property around town and really just works at Zappos. Big fucking deal. Beet, christine, dana please try and act like you have a sliver of lady in you. Drew wont be CM much longer after he gets fired like Misti did and you wont be able to hide behind him.
I’d like to point out that the “Lurker” at #42 is not actually me. (First time I’ve seen nym-jacking here. This is turning out to be quite the classy thread.)
I’m still interested in an answer to my question at #38: when researching a place to eat, why should I look at Yelp? I have a fairly good idea of the anti-Yelp position but would like to hear a strong, positive recommendation for Yelp. Despite any issue with Yelp’s business model and the glaringly apparent issues they have with community management in Vegas, are there good reviewers out there? What names should I be looking for?
I’ve learned one thing from all this Yelp discussion — that I’m really glad I’m not on Yelp.