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	<title>Comments on: Fremont Street &#8211; A Disaster Wrapped In A Debacle Surrounded By Failure</title>
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		<title>By: vegasfoodie</title>
		<link>http://www.eatinglv.com/2009/10/this-property-should-be-condemned/comment-page-1/#comment-13513</link>
		<dc:creator>vegasfoodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you&#039;re way off the mark yet again.  Firefly at the Plaza is a hit.  I go there regularly and it&#039;s great and usually quite busy.

You really hit the nail on the head!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you&#8217;re way off the mark yet again.  Firefly at the Plaza is a hit.  I go there regularly and it&#8217;s great and usually quite busy.</p>
<p>You really hit the nail on the head!</p>
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		<title>By: vegasdave</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegasdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megan:  Are you a shill for Binions?  

You completely BLEW your credibility by including Binion&#039;s Steakhouse on your list.  The Ranch Steakhouse is a PERFECT example of how the &quot;once&quot;  mighty have fallen.  

What used to be a really nice room with large portions, REAL gulf shrimp and quality service is now just a dreary experience with below average food and disinterested servers.  

It would be better if whichever hedge fund that owns the hotel these days decided to gut the place and rent it out for bar mitzvahs and Quinceañeras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan:  Are you a shill for Binions?  </p>
<p>You completely BLEW your credibility by including Binion&#8217;s Steakhouse on your list.  The Ranch Steakhouse is a PERFECT example of how the &#8220;once&#8221;  mighty have fallen.  </p>
<p>What used to be a really nice room with large portions, REAL gulf shrimp and quality service is now just a dreary experience with below average food and disinterested servers.  </p>
<p>It would be better if whichever hedge fund that owns the hotel these days decided to gut the place and rent it out for bar mitzvahs and Quinceañeras.</p>
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		<title>By: atdleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>atdleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See what I was talking about, Mr. ELV? Contrary to what some here may believe, it seems there really are a whole lot of people who like the &quot;Old Vegas&quot; experience Downtown. And again, not all the food there is bad. While I do think Megan&#039;s being a bit too harsh on Mr. ELV, I&#039;m glad she mentioned Grotto at The Golden Nugget.

Come on, there has been progress here lately with the First Friday Art Walks, the development of Fremont East as a boho/hipster/alternative nightlife scene, and the good new restaurants opening like Tinoco&#039;s and Firefly. Yes, Downtown will NEVER be like The Strip. It just wasn&#039;t made (and remade) to compete with the flashy glory of The Strip. But come on, is that always a bad thing? 

Sometimes I just prefer to let loose and relax to some tapas at Firefly or a quiet Italian dinner at Grotto before taking in a cheesy-but-fun Fremont Street video show and playing real nickels at a nickel machine. Why is that a bad thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See what I was talking about, Mr. ELV? Contrary to what some here may believe, it seems there really are a whole lot of people who like the &#8220;Old Vegas&#8221; experience Downtown. And again, not all the food there is bad. While I do think Megan&#8217;s being a bit too harsh on Mr. ELV, I&#8217;m glad she mentioned Grotto at The Golden Nugget.</p>
<p>Come on, there has been progress here lately with the First Friday Art Walks, the development of Fremont East as a boho/hipster/alternative nightlife scene, and the good new restaurants opening like Tinoco&#8217;s and Firefly. Yes, Downtown will NEVER be like The Strip. It just wasn&#8217;t made (and remade) to compete with the flashy glory of The Strip. But come on, is that always a bad thing? </p>
<p>Sometimes I just prefer to let loose and relax to some tapas at Firefly or a quiet Italian dinner at Grotto before taking in a cheesy-but-fun Fremont Street video show and playing real nickels at a nickel machine. Why is that a bad thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.eatinglv.com/2009/10/this-property-should-be-condemned/comment-page-1/#comment-12252</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefly &amp; Tinoco&#039;s are wonderful additions.  Why would you attack downtown for trying to add some well known local flavors.  Not to mention the Omelet House at the Plaza as well.  All are killer.
Great food of all levels from classic steak houses to counter food.
Hugo&#039;s Cellar at the Four Queens
Vic &amp; Anthony&#039;s at the Golden Nugget
Second Street Grill at the Fremont
Binion&#039;s Ranch Steakhouse at Binion&#039;s
The Grotto
Red Sushi
Binion&#039;s Burger Bar - rad burgers 
Chicago Brew Co.
Triple 7
The Kabob Korner
Someone mentioned Chicago Joe&#039;s - fabulous
Mamacita&#039;s mexican - may be a hole but some awesome food comes out of the hole
Curtas is a bonehead.  This is ridiculous.  
It is also a travesty that you have the balls to say anywhere should be blown up.  You know who cares about the Union Plaza and Binion&#039;s - those of us who work at the Union Plaza and Binion&#039;s.

NEWSFLASH - A HELL OF A LOT OF QUALITY PEOPLE WOULD MISS FREMONT STREET IF IT WERE GONE.  JOHN CURTAS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD MISS ELV.  TAKE THE DRIBBLE ELSEWHERE MR. CURTAS - THOSE OF US WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOWNTOWN SUPPORTERS (AS YOU CLAIM TO BE) AND NOT POSERS DON&#039;T NEED YOUR TYPE OF &quot;SUPPORT&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefly &amp; Tinoco&#8217;s are wonderful additions.  Why would you attack downtown for trying to add some well known local flavors.  Not to mention the Omelet House at the Plaza as well.  All are killer.<br />
Great food of all levels from classic steak houses to counter food.<br />
Hugo&#8217;s Cellar at the Four Queens<br />
Vic &amp; Anthony&#8217;s at the Golden Nugget<br />
Second Street Grill at the Fremont<br />
Binion&#8217;s Ranch Steakhouse at Binion&#8217;s<br />
The Grotto<br />
Red Sushi<br />
Binion&#8217;s Burger Bar &#8211; rad burgers<br />
Chicago Brew Co.<br />
Triple 7<br />
The Kabob Korner<br />
Someone mentioned Chicago Joe&#8217;s &#8211; fabulous<br />
Mamacita&#8217;s mexican &#8211; may be a hole but some awesome food comes out of the hole<br />
Curtas is a bonehead.  This is ridiculous.<br />
It is also a travesty that you have the balls to say anywhere should be blown up.  You know who cares about the Union Plaza and Binion&#8217;s &#8211; those of us who work at the Union Plaza and Binion&#8217;s.</p>
<p>NEWSFLASH &#8211; A HELL OF A LOT OF QUALITY PEOPLE WOULD MISS FREMONT STREET IF IT WERE GONE.  JOHN CURTAS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD MISS ELV.  TAKE THE DRIBBLE ELSEWHERE MR. CURTAS &#8211; THOSE OF US WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOWNTOWN SUPPORTERS (AS YOU CLAIM TO BE) AND NOT POSERS DON&#8217;T NEED YOUR TYPE OF &#8220;SUPPORT&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 12</title>
		<link>http://www.eatinglv.com/2009/10/this-property-should-be-condemned/comment-page-1/#comment-12198</link>
		<dc:creator>12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s my first time logging on this site and at first I was pleased to find a critic doing the Vegas scene.  Then as I continued to read I realized how completely out of touch Mr. Curtas is with everything, as well as being unable to describe in any coherent or useful fashion exactly what it is he specifically likes or dislike about anything.   Seriously, it sounds like Beavis and Butthead become food critics.

Mr. Curtas, let me tell ya,  I travel this country for a living and I have never seen, heard or read anyone who espouses to be a legitimate critic of anything who comes across as the complete and total moron that you yourself seem to portray here so perfectly.

Job Opportunity:  LAS VEGAS FOOD CRITIC    Job opening:  Immediate,  PLEASE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my first time logging on this site and at first I was pleased to find a critic doing the Vegas scene.  Then as I continued to read I realized how completely out of touch Mr. Curtas is with everything, as well as being unable to describe in any coherent or useful fashion exactly what it is he specifically likes or dislike about anything.   Seriously, it sounds like Beavis and Butthead become food critics.</p>
<p>Mr. Curtas, let me tell ya,  I travel this country for a living and I have never seen, heard or read anyone who espouses to be a legitimate critic of anything who comes across as the complete and total moron that you yourself seem to portray here so perfectly.</p>
<p>Job Opportunity:  LAS VEGAS FOOD CRITIC    Job opening:  Immediate,  PLEASE!</p>
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		<title>By: has a clue</title>
		<link>http://www.eatinglv.com/2009/10/this-property-should-be-condemned/comment-page-1/#comment-11848</link>
		<dc:creator>has a clue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haa  haaaa    nice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haa  haaaa    nice</p>
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		<title>By: concerned citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.eatinglv.com/2009/10/this-property-should-be-condemned/comment-page-1/#comment-11847</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have another tired formula that should be blown up for you...

&quot;food critics&quot; who attack only the things and people who can&#039;t help them in order to self-promote and bring attention to themselves.  

&quot;food critics&quot; who seek and crave the celebrity status of the chef and restauranteur asses that they kiss deeply and regularly.  

&quot;food critics&quot; who use their bully-pulpits to spit venom selectively, only at the people who you don&#039;t need or don&#039;t need you, a great way to bring attention to you and your fake brash, no-holds-barred, self-promoting bs journalism at the expense of unsuspecting, often undeserving businesses. 

&quot;food critics&quot; who espouse blowing up all of the &quot;poor&quot; people and the places they go and stay.  because the strip and the rich people at the Wynn are so great!  

you are so relevant, john curtas!  so in the know and hip!  so controversial!  such a douchebag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have another tired formula that should be blown up for you&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;food critics&#8221; who attack only the things and people who can&#8217;t help them in order to self-promote and bring attention to themselves.  </p>
<p>&#8220;food critics&#8221; who seek and crave the celebrity status of the chef and restauranteur asses that they kiss deeply and regularly.  </p>
<p>&#8220;food critics&#8221; who use their bully-pulpits to spit venom selectively, only at the people who you don&#8217;t need or don&#8217;t need you, a great way to bring attention to you and your fake brash, no-holds-barred, self-promoting bs journalism at the expense of unsuspecting, often undeserving businesses. </p>
<p>&#8220;food critics&#8221; who espouse blowing up all of the &#8220;poor&#8221; people and the places they go and stay.  because the strip and the rich people at the Wynn are so great!  </p>
<p>you are so relevant, john curtas!  so in the know and hip!  so controversial!  such a douchebag!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff in OKC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff in OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most elitist, mean spirited and out of touch posts I&#039;ve ever read. And then I had to listen to it on my KNPR itunes downloads! The Strip is overcrowded; filled with obnoxious, SoCal twentysomethings who can&#039;t afford to be there; pretentious, middle aged people who can&#039;t afford to be there; and the free attraction clogging immigrants who can&#039;t afford to be there. It&#039;ll be 10 years before capacity on the overbuilt Strip meets demand, and then the County will wake up in a panic because they have delayed the Ivanpah Airport and they&#039;re maxed out on air travel capacity. How is anyone gonna afford to blow up Downtown?
I&#039;m 51 years old, my wife and I make over $100k per year, and we come to Las Vegas every 3-4 months. 9 times out of 10 we stay on the Strip, but it is becoming less fun because of the dour snobs that have become so prevalent.
Downtown can be dirty, and the people can be scary, just like on the Strip. But at least they&#039;re real, and letting the other guy have fun without looking down their nose at the person next to them because they ate at a buffet. Long live Downtown!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most elitist, mean spirited and out of touch posts I&#8217;ve ever read. And then I had to listen to it on my KNPR itunes downloads! The Strip is overcrowded; filled with obnoxious, SoCal twentysomethings who can&#8217;t afford to be there; pretentious, middle aged people who can&#8217;t afford to be there; and the free attraction clogging immigrants who can&#8217;t afford to be there. It&#8217;ll be 10 years before capacity on the overbuilt Strip meets demand, and then the County will wake up in a panic because they have delayed the Ivanpah Airport and they&#8217;re maxed out on air travel capacity. How is anyone gonna afford to blow up Downtown?<br />
I&#8217;m 51 years old, my wife and I make over $100k per year, and we come to Las Vegas every 3-4 months. 9 times out of 10 we stay on the Strip, but it is becoming less fun because of the dour snobs that have become so prevalent.<br />
Downtown can be dirty, and the people can be scary, just like on the Strip. But at least they&#8217;re real, and letting the other guy have fun without looking down their nose at the person next to them because they ate at a buffet. Long live Downtown!</p>
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		<title>By: atdleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>atdleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downtown Despos-

Thank you! Shouldn&#039;t we be supporting efforts to bring more culture into Downtown? The First Friday Art Walk is always a blast, and Fremont East has some surprisingly hip clubs. And getting back to the food, Triple George Grill really is one of those hidden gems... Along with Grotto at The Golden Nugget. 

And again, Firefly was great! While it does stick out like a sore thumb at The Plaza, at least the new owner is trying to bring some quality food to Fremont.

As I said earlier, I honestly doubt Downtown will ever be like the epicurean nirvana that The Strip has become. But hey, maybe it&#039;s not a bad thing. Not everyone likes what The Strip has become, so we should give tourists and locals the choice of an alternative destination Downtown.</description>
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<p>Thank you! Shouldn&#8217;t we be supporting efforts to bring more culture into Downtown? The First Friday Art Walk is always a blast, and Fremont East has some surprisingly hip clubs. And getting back to the food, Triple George Grill really is one of those hidden gems&#8230; Along with Grotto at The Golden Nugget. </p>
<p>And again, Firefly was great! While it does stick out like a sore thumb at The Plaza, at least the new owner is trying to bring some quality food to Fremont.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, I honestly doubt Downtown will ever be like the epicurean nirvana that The Strip has become. But hey, maybe it&#8217;s not a bad thing. Not everyone likes what The Strip has become, so we should give tourists and locals the choice of an alternative destination Downtown.</p>
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		<title>By: Downtown Despos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downtown Despos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Chicago Joe&#039;s, Triple 7 Brewpub, Triple George, and the best corned beef sammich in town at the Horseshoe&#039;s deli? Not gourmet by any stretch, but still good. This past New Years. FSE was a much better time than the Strip. You can&#039;t get the Block Party feeling on the Strip. What&#039;s wrong with diversity? Why don&#039;t you appreciate the attempt to bring some hip restaurants to downtown? I really have to question why a proclaimed &quot;downtowner&quot; would be so negative about new things happening on Fremont Street. I love it because it&#039;s the opposite of the Strip....ummm, well and because I can ride there on a bike from my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Chicago Joe&#8217;s, Triple 7 Brewpub, Triple George, and the best corned beef sammich in town at the Horseshoe&#8217;s deli? Not gourmet by any stretch, but still good. This past New Years. FSE was a much better time than the Strip. You can&#8217;t get the Block Party feeling on the Strip. What&#8217;s wrong with diversity? Why don&#8217;t you appreciate the attempt to bring some hip restaurants to downtown? I really have to question why a proclaimed &#8220;downtowner&#8221; would be so negative about new things happening on Fremont Street. I love it because it&#8217;s the opposite of the Strip&#8230;.ummm, well and because I can ride there on a bike from my house.</p>
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